Three Rivers
History From America's Most Famous Valleys

The Fourth New York Regiment 1778-1780
The Second New York Regiment, 1780-1783
by Samuel Tallmadge and Others
with Diaries of Samuel Tallmadge, 1780-1782 and John Barr, 1779-1782
Prepared for publication by Almon W. Lauber PH.D. of The division of Archives and History
Albany, The University of the State of New York, 1932.

Orderly Book Three Part Four

That the pay pr Month of the Officers in the Qr Masters Genis Department includeing their pay in the Line of the army shall be as follows.

The following to be the proportion of Waggons and Batt horses to the diflirent rank of officers unless otherwise directed in special cases by the Commander in Chief, or by the Commanding officer of the Southern army. The Commander in Chief and Commanding officer of the southern army for their own accommodation and for their families, as many baggage Waggons and batt horses as they may think Necessary.

Majr Genl and family one Covered four horse Waggon Brigadeir and family one Covered four horse Waggon Cols Lieut Cols and Major one Covered four horse Waggon Captains and subalterns of a Regt one covered four horse Waggon Surgeon Pay Master, Adjt and Qr Master Regimental Staff, one covered four hors Waggon, Brigade Qr Mr one bat horse. For the tents of a Regt for every seventy five men (but this to be varied according to the wait of the Tents and state of the Roads) one open four horse waggon, Quarter Master Genl for his Baggage according to his Rank for his books papers&c as many as shall find Necessary. Deputy QMr with the Main army or with a seperate army, for his baggage and for his books papers &c one Covered four horse Waggon, Commissary of forage with the main Army his Clerks and assistants, one covered four horse Waggon. Deputy Commissary of forage with a seperate army one two horse Waggon. Waggon Master and Clerks one covered four horse Waggon Deputy Waggon Master with the southern army, his Clerks and assistants one two horse waggon or two bat horses. Inspector Genl for his baggage according to his Rank, and for his papers as the Commander in Chief may direct. Inspectors one two horse Waggon. Adjt Genl two Covered four horse, Waggons for the baggage of his assistants, Clerks and official papers one two horse Waggon. Deputy Judge Advocate for the southern army one two horse Waggon, CommisY of prisoners one two horse Waggon. Deputy Commisary of prisoners Southern army one two horse Waggn Provost Martial with the prisoners & guards, one open four horse Waggon. Field Commissary of Milatary Stores, and his Deputy with the main and southern Army each one bat horse, Deputy Pay Master with the main and southern army each one two horse waggon. Field Post Master one bat horse, provided that if the number of waggons stated Above should prove insufficient the Qr M r Genl may occationally furnish such additionally carriges as the Commander in Chief or Commanding officer of a seperate Army or the secratary at War shall direct.

That a Ration of forage pr day shall consist of forteen pounds of hay, and tenn quarts of Oats for each horse. That there be Issued to the Commander in Chief, and the Commanding officer of a seperate army, and to those of their suits as many rations as the service may require. That there shall be allowed to saddle horses

That any of the officers entitled to forage, who shall keep their horses at their own expence, shall be paid therefor by the Quarter Master Genl at the average price given by him for the forage of the army.

Resolved that the Quarter Mr Genl with the approbation of the Secratary at War shall appoint so many assistants to reside in the several states as the public service may require.

That all officers in the Qr Mr Genls Department of whatever denomination, shall take the oaths of alligiance, and the oath of office prescribed by Congress, befor they enter on business.

That the Quarter Master Genl make a Return of the Names and Station of each person to be appointed in his Department.

That in setling the accounts of officers in said Department, no payor allowance whatever be granted to any person employed therein; whose Name and imployment together with a certificate of his haveing taken the aforesaid oaths, shall not have been returned within two Months, after his acceptance of such office

By the United States in Congress Assembled Octr 29th 1782.(89)

Resolved that the Qr Master Genl be allowed fifteen Rations pr Day, That the Deputy Quarter Master with the southern Army be allowed twelve Rations pr day. That the Waggon Master, CommisY of forage, for the main Army, and CommissY of forage for the southern Army be each of them allowed five Rations pr day.

That the Deputy Waggon Master with the southern Army be allowed four Rations pr day. That the Waggon Conductors each of them be allowed four Rations pr day. That the assistants in the Quarter Masters Department be allowed each of them two Rations pr day. That the Directors of Artificers be allowed each of them three Rations pr day. And the Sub Directors be allowed each of them two Rations pr day; And that the foregoing Rations shall be inclusive of what the several officers aforesaid may be entitled to draw in the Line of the Army.

By the United States in Congress Assembled Decr 13th 1 782(90)

Resolved that every officer whose duty requires his being on horseback, who shall have his horse killed or wounded and disabled by the Enemy,

The Honorable the Congress have been pleased to pass the following Resolves.

By the United States in Congress assembled March 22nd 1783.

On the Report of the Committee to whom was referrd a motion of Mr [Eliphalet] Dyer together with the Memorial of the Officers of the Army, and the Report of the Committe thereon-Congress came to the following Resolves(91)

Whereas the Officers of the several Lines under the immediate command of his ExcellY Genl Washington did by their late Memorial, transmitted by their Committee represent to Congress that the half pay granted by sundry Resolutions was regarded in an unfavorable light by the Citizens of some of these states who would prefer a compensation for a limited term of years, or by a sum in gross to an Establishment for Life, and did on that account solicit a commutation of their half pay for an equivalent, in one of the two modes above mentioned, in order to remove all Subject of dissatisfaction from the minds of their fellow Citizens - and Whereas Congress are disireous, as well of gratifying the reasonable expectations of the Officers of the Army, as of removeing all objections which may exist in any part of the

89 Journals of the Continental Congress, v. XXIII, p. 693.
90 Ibid., v. XXIII. p. 795.
91 Ibid., XXIV. p. 207-9

United States, to the principle of the half pay establishment, for which the faith of United States have been pledged, pursuaded that those objections can only anise from the nature of the compensation, not from any disposition to compensate those whose sacrifices and sufferings, have a Just title to the approbation and rewards of their Country-Therefore Resolved that such Officers as are now in service and shall continue therein to the end of the War shall be intitled to receive the amount of five years full pay, in money or securities on Intrest of Six pr C. pr Annum as Congress shall find most convenient instead of the half pay promised for Life by the Resolution of the 21 sl of Octr 1780-the said securities to such as shall be given to the other creditors of the United States-provided that it be at the option of the Lines of the respective States, and not of the officers Individually in those Lines, to except or refuse the same, and provided also that their election shall be signified to Congress through the Commander in Chief from the Lines under his imediate Command within two Months, and through the Commanding Officer of the southern Army from those under his Command within six Months of the date of this Resolution that the same communication shall extend to the Corps not belonging to the Lines of particular states, and who are entitled to half pay for life as aforesaid, the acceptance or refusial to be determined by Corps, and to be signified in the same manner, and within the same time above mentioned. That all officers belonging to the Hospital Department who are intitled to half pay by the Resolution of the 17th of JanY 1781 may collectively agree to accept or refuse the aforesaid commutation signifying the same thro the Commander in Chief within six Months from this time. That such officers as have retired at different periods entitled to half pay for life may collectively in each state of which they are Inhabitants accept or refuse the same, their acceptation or refusial to be signifyed by agents Authorized for that purpose within six Months from this period-that with Respect to such retireing officers the commutation if accepted by them, shall be in lieu of whatever may be now due to them since the time of their retireing from service as well as what might hereafter become due, and that so soon as their acceptance shall be signifyed, the superintant of finance be, and he is hereby directed to take measures for the fitting settlement of their accounts accordingly, and to Issue to them Certificates bearing Intrest at six per Cent.

That all officers entitled to half pay for life not included in the Proceeding Resolution may also agree collectively to accept or refuse, the aforesaid commutation signifying the same within six Months from this time.

Cantonment on Hudsons River [Near Fishkill, N. Y.](92) 10th May 1783.

Proposals for establishing a society, upon principles therein mentioned, whose members shall be officers of the American Army, haveing been communicated to the several Regiments of the respective lines, they appointed an officer each, who, in conjunction with the general officer, should take the same into consideration, at their meeting this day, at which the Honbl Major Genl Baron D. Steuben, the senior officer present was pleased to preside.

The proposals being read, fully considered, paragraft by paragraft, and the Amendments agreed to.

Major Genl Knox(93) Brigdr Genl Hand(94) Brigr Genl Huntington(95) And Capt Shaw(96) were chosen to revise the same, and prepare a copy to be laid before this assembly, at their next meeting to be holden at Major Genl Baron D. Steubens(97) [Head] Quarters on Thursday the 13th Instant

Thursday 13th May 1783
The representatives of the American Army being assembled agreeable to the adjournment, the plan for establishing a society, whereof the officers of the Army are to be members, is accepted, and is as follows,
It haveing pleased the supreme Govener of the Univers in the disposition of human affairs to cause the seperation of the collonies of North America from the domination of Greate Britain, and after a bloody conflict of eight years, to establish them free, Independant, and Sovereign States, connected by alliances, founded on reciprocal advantages, with some of the Greate princes of the Earth

To purpetuate therefore as well the remembrance of this vast event,(98) as the mutual friendships, which have been formd under the pressure of common

92 The original meeting was held in the Verplanck House, then the headquarters of Baron Steuben. There the objects of the society were formulated.
98 Henry Knox (Mass.), raised to the rank of major general by Act of Congress March 22, 1782, to rank from November 15, 1781. Heitman, Historical Register, p. 336.
94 Edward Hand (Pa.) made brigadier general April 1. 1777. Ibid., p. 272.
95 Jedediah Huntington (Conn.), made brigadier general May 12, 1777. Ibid.. p. 311.
96 Samuel Shaw (Mass.), made captain April 12, 1780. Ibid., p. 492.
97 Frederick William Augustus, Baron de Steuben (Prussia).
98 The War of Independence.

danger, and in the many instances cemented by the blood of the parties, the officers of the American Army do hereby, in the most Solemn manner associate, constitute and combine ourselves into one society of friends to endure as long as they shall endure, or any of their eldest male posterity, and in failure thereof the collateral branches who may be Judged worthy of becomeing its supporters and Members.

The officers of the American Army haveing been generally taken from the Citizens of America, possess high veneration for the character of that Illustrious Roman Lucious Quintius Cincinnatus,(99) and being resolved to follow his example, by returning to their citizenship again, they think they may with propriety denominate themselves the society of the Cincinnati

The following principles shall be immutable, and form the basis of the society of the Cincinnati

An incessant attention to preserve inviolate those exalted rights and liberties of human nature, for which they have fought and bled, and without which the high rank of a rational being is a curse instead of a blessing.

An unalterable determination to promote and cherish between the respective States, that Union and national honor, so essentially necessary to their happiness, and the future dignity of the American empire.

To render permanent the cordial affection subsisting amoung the officers. this spirit will dictate Brotherly Kindness in all things, and particularly extend to most substantial acts of beneficiance, according to the ability of the society, towards those officers and their families, who unfortunately may be under the necessity of receiveing it.

The Genl society will for the sake of frequent communications, be devided into State societies, and those again into such districts as shall be directed by the State societies.

The societies of the districts to meet as often as shall be agreed upon by the State society,-those of the State on the fourth day of July annually or oftner if they shall find it expedient-and the Genl society on the first Monday in May Annually, so long as they shall deem necessary, and afterwards as least in every three years, at each meeting the principles of the institution will fully be considered, and the best measures to promote them adopted.

The state societies will consist of all the members residing in each State respectively, and any member removeing from one State to another is to be considered, in all respects as belonging to the society of the State in which he shall actually reside,

99 Lucius Quinclius Cincinnalus.

The State societies to have a Presidint. vice President. Secratary T reasurer, and assistant Treasurer to be chosen annually. by a Majority of votes of the State meeting.

Each State meeting shall write annu [a] lly, or oftner if necessary a circular letter to the other State societies. noteing whatever they may think worthy of observation, respecting the good of the society or the general Union of the States, and giveing of the Officers chosen for the current year. copies of these letters shall be regularly transmitted to the secretary Genl of the society. who will record them in a book to be assigned for that purpose

The State society will regulate every thing respecting itself. and the societies of its districts. consistant with the Genl maxims of the Cincinnati. Judge of the quallifications of the members who may be proposed. and expell any member. who, by a conduct inconsistent with a gentlemen and a man of honor, or by any opposition to the intrest of the community in general, or the society in particular. may render himself unworthy to constitute a Member.

In order to form funds which may be respectable, and assist the unfortunate, each officer shall deliver to the Treasurer of the State society one Months pay. which shall remain forever to the use of the State society. the intrest only of which, if necessary to be appropriated to the releif of the unfortunate,

Donations may be made, by persons not of the society. and by members of the society, for the express purpose of forming permanant funds. for the use of the State society. and the intrest of these Donations appropriated in the same manner as that of the Months pay.

Monies at the pleasure of each member. may be subscribed in the societies of the district. or the State societies, for the releif of the unfortunate members, or their widdows and orphans. to be appropriated by the State society only.

The meeting of the Genl society shall consist of its officers. and a representation from each State society, in number not exceeding five, whose expences shall be born by their respective State societies. in the Genl meeting the President, Vice Prest secretary, assistant secretary, T reasr and assistant Treasurer Genls, shall be chosen to serve untill the next meeting.

The circular letters which may have been written. by the respective State societies to each other, and their particular laws, shall be read and considered, and all measures concerted which may conduce to the Genl intendment of the society.

It is probable that some persons may make donations to the Genl society. for the purpose of establishing a fund, for the further comfort of the unfortunate, in which case such donations must be placed in the hands of the Treasurer Genl, the intrest only of which to be disposed of, if necessary by the general Meeting.

All the officers of the American Army as well those who have resigned with honor after three Years service, in the capacity of officers, or who have been deranged by the resolutions of Congress, upon the several reforms of the Army, as those wh [0 sh] all have continued to the end of the war, have the right to become parties to this institution, Provided that they subscribe one Months pay and sign their names to the general rules in their respective State societies. those who are present with the Army immediately, and others within six Months after the Army shall be disbanded, extraordinary cases excepted. The rank, time of service, resolutions of Congress by which any have been deranged and place of residince, must be added to each name, and as a testimony of affection to the memmory and the ofsprings of such officers as have died in the service, their eldest male branches shall have the same right of becomeing members, as the children of the actual members of the society

Those officers who are foreigners, not resident in any of the States, will have their names enrolled by the secretary Genl and are to be considered as members in the society in any of the States in which they may happen to be.

And as there are, and will at all times be men in the respective States, eminent for their abilities and patriotism, whose views may be directed to the same laudable objects with those of the Cincinnati, it shall be a rule to admit such characters, as honorary members of the society, for their own lives only, provided always that the numbers of honorary members in each state does not exceed a ratio of one to four of the officers or their decendants

Each State society shall obtain a list of its members, and at the first annual meeting, the State secratary shall have engrossed on parchment, two copies of the institution of the society, which every member present shall sign, and the secratary shall endeavour to obtain the signature of every absent member, one of those lists to be transmited to the secratary Genl to be kept in the archieves of the society, and the other to remain in the hands of the State secratary

From the State lists, the secratary Genl must make out, at the first Genl meeting, a compleate list of the whole society, with a copy of which he will furnish each State secratary

The society shall have an Order, by which its members shall be known and distinguished, which shall be a medal of Gold, of a proper size to receive the emblems,(100) and suspended by a deep blue Ribban, two inches wide, edged with white, discriptive of the Union of America and France.

The principle figure Cincinnatus-"three senators presenting him with a sword and other military ensigns-on a field in the back ground his wife standing at the door of her cottage - near it a plough and instruments of husbandry - round the whole

Omnia reliquit servare Rempublican
On the reverse

Sun riseing-a City with open gates and vessels entering the port-fame crowning cincinnatus with a wreath inscribed, Virtutis Proemium. below

Hands Joined supporting a heart, with the motto Esto Perpetua. round the whole

Societas Cincinnatorum instituta A. D. 1783

The society deeply impressd with a sense of the generous assistance this country has received from France, and desireous of perpetuating the friendships which have been formd, and so happily subsisted between the officers of the Allied forces, in the prosecution of the War, directs that the President Genl transmit as soon as may be, to each of the Characters hereafter named, a medal containing the order of the society,

His Excelly the Chevalier De La Luzerne, Minister Plenipotentiary
His Excelly The Siur Gerard late Minister Plenipotentiary
Their Excellencys
The Count D Estang. [Estaing]
The Count D Grasse
The Count D Barras
The Chevaleir Du Toncks
admirals and commandts in the Navy.
His Excelly the Count De Roshambeau

Commander in chief and the GenIs and Col. in his Army and acquaint them, that the society do themselves the honor to consider them Members


that a copy of the foregoing institution be given to the senior officer of each State line, and that the officers of the respective State lines sign their names to the same, in manner and form following.

100 The emblem chosen was an eagle. In the design of the order Cincinnatus appears as principal figure.

We the subscribers, officers of the American Army, do hereby voluntarily become parties to the foregoing instructions, and do bind ourselves to observe and be governed by the principles therein contained for the permenance whereof we do solemnly pledge to each other our sacred honour. Done in the Cantonment(101) on Hudsons River in the Year 1783.

That the members of the society at the time of subscribing their names to the institution do also sign a draft on the Pay Master Genl in the following terms, the Regiments to do it Regimentally, and the Genls and other officers not belonging to Regiments, each for himself individually

To John Pierce Esqr Pay Master Genl to the Army of the United States Sir.
"pleas to pay to treasurer for the. . . . . . . . . . . . . association of the Cincinnati or his order one Months pay of our several grades respectively, and deduct the same from the ballance which shall be found due to us, on the final liquidation of our accounts for which this shall be your Warrant."

That the members of the several State societies assemble as soon as may be for the choice of their President and other officers and that the Presidents corrospond together and appoint a meeting of the officers who may be chosen for each State, in order to persue such further measures as may be Judged Necessary

That the Ceneral Officers, and the officers delegated to represent the several Corps of the Army subscribe to the institution of the Genl society for themselves and their constituants, in the manner and form before subscribed.
That Genl Heath(102)
Genl Baron D. Steuban(103)
& Genl Knox(104)
be a committee to wait on his excellency the commander in chief with a copy of the institution, and request him to honor the society by placeing his name at the head of it.

101 Near Fishkill, N. Y.
102 William Heath (Mass.), made major general of the Continental Army August 9, 1776. Heitman, Historical Register, p. 284.
103 Frederick William. Augustus, Baron de Steuben (Prussia), made major general and inspector general of the Continental Army, May 5, 1778. Ibid., p. 518.
104 Henry Knox (Mass.), made major general, March 22, 1782, to rank from November 15, 1781. Ibid., p. 336.

That Major Genl Heath second in Command in this Army, be and he is hereby desired to transmit copies of the institution, with the proceedings thereon to the commanding officer of the Southern Army, the senior officer in rank in each State, from Pennsylvania to Georgia inclusive, and to the Commanding officer of the Rhode Island line, requesting them to communicate the same to the officers under their several commands, and to take such measures as may appear to them necessary for expediting the establishment of their State societies, and sending a delagation to represent them in the first General Meeting to be holden on the first Monday in May 1784.

The meeting then adjourned without day.
Majr Genl President

a true copy from the origina(105)

105 The lmtitution of the Society of the Cincinnati formed by the Officers of the Army of the United States, for the laudable purposes therein mentioned, published by order and for the use of the members in the State of New York, 1784, contains this entire copy.
Institution of the Society of the Cincinnati formed by the officers of the American Army of the Revolution, 1783. with extracts, from the Proceedings of its general meetings and from the Transactions of the New York State Society by John Schuyler, Secretary. New York, 1886, contains both the proposed plan of General Knox and the final plan.
Washington was chosen president of the society, and Knox secretary.

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