1. Simon Volkertse Veeder  was born in 1624 in Netherlands. He died on Jan 10 1697.

The following is a quote from Genealogies of the First Settlers of the Patent and City of  Schenectady,

from 1662 to 1800 by Jonathan Pearson(1873).  It is one of the standard works on early Schenectady

genealogy.

     "Simon Volkerts Veeder, alias de Bakker, born in 1624, belonged to the ship Prince Maurice in

1644, which plied between Amsterdam and New Amsterdam;  1652 he bought a lot and settled in the

latter city; sold the same in 1654 for 30 beavers, removed to Beverwyck, and from thence to

Schenectady in 1662.  He owned a bouwery on the Great flat numbered 9, containing 24 morgens,

and a village lot on the north corner of State and Ferry Streets.  He also owned land on the

Normanskil."

         From Vreeland Y Leonard "The Genealogical Record of the Veeder Family - 1937

         The originator of the Veeder Family in America was employed by the East India Company as

a seaman on the ship 'Prince Maurice' which plied between Amsterdam and New Netherlands.  He

settled in New Amsterdam in 1652.  It appears that he soon moved to Fort Orange, where on

September 4 1654, he sold to 'Albert Gerritse', carpenter, a certain lot in Manathas, next to Adrian

Vincent, for thirty beavers.  On July 18/28, 1665, he is mentioned as owning a lot in Albany, "North of

that of Johannes Provoost, who sells his lot to Jan Evertse."  He was one of the original purchasers,

of the Schenectady Patent and on Feb 27, 1670/1, while living there, sells to Joris Arissen (Van der

Baast) his pasture land at Schenectady.  He evidently moved back to Albany, for on November 27,

1673, Johannes De Wandalear leases him a house, having a large bake oven, in Willemstad (Albany)

for three years, beginning May 1, 1674 and ending May 1, 1677.  In December 1675 "the Honorable

Commander (of Fort Orange) and the Commissaries resolve to double the Burger Guard and have

every night three sentries on guard, to wit:  one at the Guard House on the hill, one near the cannon

at the church and one at the house of Symon, the baker, opposite Harmon Ganesvoort's where a

Corps de Garde shall be kept also."  On March 5, 1678/9, he is listed as one of the persons "to keep

in repair the posts set around the town fence," distance one rod.  On September 26, 1679, he had a

horse stolen from him by one Jacob, the negro of Sweer Teunise.  On January 20, 1679/80, his wife,

Engelite, was cited before the Court for slander, where after a hearing, she made suitable apology on

the 22nd.  On November 2, 1682, he exchanges "the first lot (called DeHoek)  on which he dwells at

Schenectady, with Jacob Caspersz (Halenbeck) for house and lands on the Normanskil, who on June

26, 1683, sells to Symon his lands on the Normanskil, called Tawassouthaw".  His will dated January

8, 1696/7 mentions his wife Engeltie, who was named executor, and the children as given below.

         Personal property, lands in Schenectady and on the Normanskil called Tawassathaw, are

disposed of.  The will was not proved until April 13, 1713 and on May 20, 1714 testamentary letters

were granted to his three sons, Gerrit, Johannes and Volkert, the fourth son, Pieter having died in

1709.

AUTHOR'S NOTE:  Most sources do not give Engeltje's last name however some Dutch and

German sources list her as "Engeltje Vrooman born 1640".  There is a possibility that they have

confused this Engeltje with a later Engeltje Vrooman or her last name may well have been Vrooman. 

The birth dates of the children vary slightly, depending on the source but the sequence of birth seems

to be consistent.

Simon and Engeltje had the following children:

+          2 F  i.   Geesie Veeder  was born in 1660.

+          3 F ii.   Volkie Veeder  was born in 1662.

+          4 M   iii.   Gerrit Simon Veeder  was born in 1664. He died in Aug 1755.

+          5 F iv.   Magdalena Veeder  was born in 1667.

+          6 M v.   Johannes Simon Veeder  was born in 1674. He died on Feb 05 1748.

+          7 F vi.   Maria Veeder  was born in 1675. She died on Feb 07 1728.

+          8 M   vii.   Peter Symonse Veeder  was born in 1676. He died before Jun 26 1709.

+          9 M   viii.   Volkert Symonse Veeder  was born in 1679. He died on Aug 12 1733.

They had the following children:

+        10 M i.   Simon Vrooman  was christened on Feb 25 1681.

+        11 F ii.   Jannetje Vrooman  was born on Jul 23 1682.

          12 M   iii.   Hendrick Vrooman  was born on Mar 26 1684. He was buried on May 28 1690.

          13 M   iv.   Jacob Vrooman  was born in 1686. He died in 1688.

+        14 M v.   Pieter Vrooman  was born in 1688. He died on Jul 18 1748.

+        15 M   vi.   Hendrick Vrooman  was born on Sep 09 1690.

+        16 F   vii.   Engelite Vrooman  was born on Jan 18 1693. She died in 1754.

+        17 M   viii.   Johannes Vrooman  was born on Oct 24 1694. He died in Jun 1730.

          18 F ix.   Maria Vrooman  was born on Oct 31 1696.

+        19 M x.   Jacob Vrooman  was born on Dec 28 1698. He died on Apr 20 1774.

+        20 F xi.   Catharina Vrooman  was born in May 1701.

+        21 M   xii.   Bartholomeus Vrooman  was born on Jan 10 1703. He died on Mar 29 1771.

+        22 F   xiii.   Magdalena Vrooman  was born on Jul 06 1704. She died on Apr 06 1732.

             23 M   xiv.   Cornelis Vrooman  was born on Dec 29 1705. He died in Jan 1733.

+        24 M i.   Johannes Wemple  was born in Aug 1684.

          25 M ii.   Simon Wemple  was born in 1686. He died in 1705.

+        26 F iii.   Marytje Wemple  was born in 1688.

+        27 M   iv.   Myndert Wemple  was born in Aug 1691.

          28 F v.   Engeltie Wemple  was christened on Oct 29 1693. She died young.

+        29 F vi.   Engeltie Wemple  was born in Oct 1695.

+        30 F   vii.   Margret (Grietje) Wemple  was born in Nov 1697. She died on Dec 09 1777.

+        31 M   viii.   Hendrick Wemple  was christened on Jan 05 1701.

          32 F ix.   Susanna Wemple  was born in 1703. She was christened on Apr 15 1703 in Schenectady, NY.

+        33 M x.   Barnardus (Barent) Wemple  was born in 1704.

      Through Catrina and Gerrit's marriage in addition to other property, Gerrit obtained possession of

lots in the village on the north and west corners of Union and Church streets, which remained in the

family several generations. The lot on the west corner came to him by Otten's purchase from Van

Woggelum; that on the north corner was purchased by Reyer Schermerhorn, of Ludovicus Cobes; -

100 feet on Union street and 223 feet on Church street. By his will he divided this lot into four smaller

ones and gave to his sons Hendrikus and Symon the lot on the corner, 50 by 180 feet, to his daughter

Catriena, the lot of the same size next west having a front on Union street of 50 feet; - to Cornelis a

lot on Church street 40 by 100 feet 180 feet north of Union street and another 51 x 100 feet north of

Cornelis' lot to Hendrikus and Symon. A large portion of these lots fronting on Church street belonged

to the estate of the late Col. Stephen Yates.

      On December 9, 1718, the Dutch Church conveyed to him a lot on the south side of State street, "

bounded north by the street, 52 feet, east by the lot Volkert Symonse [Veeder, his brother] 142 feet,

west by the lot of Adam Smit 140 feet, and south by land belonging to the afore mentioned churcb 44

1/2 feet wood measure." Subsequently this lot came into the possession of Thomas Brouwer Bancker,

who built upon it the house and later occupied by Mr. John Lake and a blacksmith shop next east,

which portion later belonged to the estate of James Walker deceased.

      Besides the above lots within the village, Gerrit Symonse owned sever parcels of land on the

bouwland among which were the two farms numbered nine, patented to his father, four small gardens

on the lowland between Mill creek and the canal and the mill privilege at "Veeder's mill" and the land

adjacent.

      He built a mill at this locality quite early. On the 19th Feb. 1717/8, he received title to the lands on

both sides of the creek, (then called Sand kil) from Vrooman's mill-right (at the Brandywine mill) to

and north of the gasworks on Centre street; this conveyance gave him 100 yards on each side of the

creek, and that portion lying between the mill and the city along Centre street was called "Symon's

meadow."

In 1762 the Veeders obtained from Isaac Vrooman (the owner of the Brandywine mill lot) a

conveyance of 600 yards of land and stream above "Veeders mill" and this remained in the family

until 1812, when Judge Gerrit S. Veeder conveyed the mill right and land at the "cotton factory" so

called, to the "Schenectady Manufacturing Company."

      He made his will in which he was joined by his wife, Catrina, Mar. 12, 1746, proved July 8, 1755  -

making the following disposition of his estate:

      "-To his eldest son Helmer the hindmost lot of lowland [No. 9], which he now has in possession, -

12 morgens more or less, - lying between the land of Harmanus Vedder and Sander Glen, except a

morgen that lies on the Kings' highway [River road], - item two gardens lying next Cornelis Vielen's

pasture, that part next Ephraim Smith's; - item those two gardens which lie next above the foregoing

gardens, which came from his grandmother" [Otten]

      -To Henderikus his "corn mill and half part of the saw mill, with the house, barn, stables and all

belonging thereto lying on the Zant kil, - the whole pasture as it lies in fence called the vley belonging

to the right of the above written house and mills excepting six morgens of the above written vley

beginning at the village and next the pasture of Jan Barentse Wempel;"

      -To his son Symon "the six morgens of the vley above mentioned,"

      -To sons Hendrikes and Symon "four morgens of lowland lying in the Hoeck on the bouwland [part

of foremost farm No. 9] next the path or Kings highway; also my house and part of the lot in the

village of Schenectady next the new Dutch church, on the corner of the street [north corner of Union

and Church streets] , being in breadth on the south side [on Union street] fifty feet and in length along

the [Church] street on the east one hundred and thirty feet to the lot which I below give to our son

Cornelis, and a lot on which my barn stands, being fifty feet broad along the [Church] street on the

east side and one hundred feet long to the lot of Nicolas Groot, all Amsterdam measure;

      -To my four daughters Engeltie, Ariaantje, Annatie and Magdalena, all the rest and remainder of

my land in the Hoeck which I have not above devised, being four morgens to each one equal morgen;

      -To son Cornelis, a lot lying in the aforesaid village near the new Church, lying to the south of the

lot and barn that I gave above

      -To my son Symon and Hendrikes, in breadth on the east side along the [Church] street forty feet

and length from the street to the lot of Nicolas Groot one hundred feet;

      -To our sons Hendrikes and Seymon and Gerrit, son of our son Helmer I give all our land in the

Jersey at a place called the Ganse Gat; -

      -To Catharina Vedder, daughter of my daughter Engeltie, wife of Johannes Albertse Vedder a lot

of ground lying between the house and lot of Nicolas Groot and the house and lot which I have herein

above devised to our sons Hendrikes and Seymon being in breadth on the south side [on Union street]

fifty feet and in length on both sides one hundred and thirty feet to the lot above devised to my son

Cornelis, -

      -A little pasture remaining from the pastures which we herein above have devised to our son

Helmer as it lies in fence next to Cornelis Vielen's pasture and the church pasture and Jan Vrooman's

in the corner where they go into the vley; also a morgen of woodland lying on the hill next the mill-

right to the south of Jan Barentse [Wemps] woodland, which sometime ago was cleared, also a

morgen of lowland lying on the road on the hindmost lot of lowland [No. 9] hereinabove devised to my

son Helmer on condition that my son Helmer shall have a waggon way over this morgen of land from

his bouwland; and our sons Hendrikes and Symon shall have the right to drive their waggons to the

saw and corn mills through the little pasture as the path now runs through it; to Gerrit Van Antwerpen,

four feet in breadth of ground lying by his house and lot on the south side thereof and one hundred

feet long.Gerrit Symonse Feb. 9, 1733/4, conveyed half of his sawmill to his son Wilhelmus [Helmers?

], who lived just south of the mill near the Veeder burying ground.

          By the contract between Helmer Otten's widow and Jan Janse Bleecker and Hans Hendrickse,

guardians for her daughter Catrina, made July 1, 1676, said widow, agreed to pay her daughter as

soon as she was of age or married, "ye somme of 225 whole beaver skins for the payment of which

said Ariaantje doth bind the farm [No. 4] at Schenectady," &c. The money in Holland was to be

equally divided between mother and daughter, - a very comfortable estate for a young woman in

those times.

           These notes are partly from "The Veeder Papers"  and other parts from material that can be

found at the Schenectady Historical Society.

+        34 M i.   Helmers Veeder  was born in Oct 1690.

+        35 F ii.   Engeltie Veeder  was born on Jul 22 1693.

+        36 F iii.   Ariantje Veeder  was born on Nov 16 1695.

+        37 M   iv.   Hendricus (Henry) Veeder  was born on Aug 03 1698.

          38 M v.   Simon Veeder  was born on Dec 31 1700.

Six morgens of land commencing at or near the "Coehorn kil" on Centre street and

extending southward, on the death of Symon without issue were the occasion of

much doubt as to the interpretation of his father's will; they were in the end sold to

James Willson, merchant.

This house and lot on the death of Symon without issue came to Hendricus, who by

will made 3 Mar., 1790, devised it to his daughter Catharina, wife of Jellis J. Fonda. -

Veeder Papers.

+        39 F vi.   Annatje Veeder  was born on Aug 16 1703.

+        40 M   vii.   Cornelius Veeder  was born on Jan 27 1706.

+        41 F   viii.   Helena (Magdalena) Veeder  was born on Apr 02 1710.

William was also know as Willem Coppernol.

+        42 F  i.   Maria Magdalena Apple  was christened on Jul 05 1693.

          43 M ii.   Simon Apple  was christened on May 26 1695 in New Amsterdam.

           44 F iii.   Engeltie Apple  was christened on Jun 23 1697 in New Amsterdam. She died young.

           45 F iv.   Helena Apple  was christened on Aug 06 1699 in New Amsterdam.

           46 F v.   Engeltie Apple  was christened on Sep 14 1701 in New Amsterdam.

           47 F vi.   Catharina Apple  was christened on Sep 29 1703 in New Amsterdam.

           48 M   vii.   Johannes Apple  was christened on Mar 10 1706 in New Amsterdam.

From his father's will, he received land on the Normanskil, he also bought part of Jan Hendrickse Van

Bael's patent there.  His step son was Luykas Johannes Wyngaard.

Johannes left a will dated July 15, 1746 in which he mentions his five children by name, also his

stepson, Johannes Wyngaard.

          49 F  i.   Debora Veeder  was christened on Jun 20 1698 in Albany. She died young.

+        50 F ii.   Engeltie Veeder  was christened on Oct 27 1700.

+        51 F iii.   Debora Veeder  was born in Jan 1703.

+        52 F iv.   Maria Veeder  was christened on Apr 01 1705.

+        53 M v.   Myndert Veeder  was christened on Apr 30 1707. He died on Oct 14 1759.

+        54 M   vi.   Simon Johannes Veeder  was christened on Oct 30 1709. He died on Sep 27 1786.

Susanna Wendell was the widow of Johannes Lucas Wyngaard, whom she married on April 25, 1695.

Jan was a cooper.

+        56 M i.   Evert Jansen  was born in Aug 1698. He died before Mar 1750.

+        57 F ii.   Maria Evertsen .

          58 F iii.   Engeltje Evertsen  was born in 1701.

Pieter inherited land on the Normanskil from his father.  He signed his will Aug 31, 1708 as Pieter

Symonsen of Rensselaerwyck Colony, and mentions his wife Neeltie and two children, Symon and

Maritie.  He is supposed to have died before the birth of his third child Peter.  The will was not proved

until July 27, 1730.

+        59 M i.   Simon Pieter Veeder  was christened on Dec 30 1704.

+        60 F ii.   Maria Veeder  was born on Nov 29 1706. She died on Mar 27 1731.

+        61 M   iii.   Peter Veeder  was christened on Jun 26 1709.

In 1719 the sheriff of Albany seized two pieces of " Strouds" in his house and condemned them to be

sold and disposed of according to the Albany city charter.  Under his father's will, Volkert received

Farm #9 on the Bouwland along the Mohawk River, together with a lot on the north corner of Ferry

and State Streets upon which he lived.  He made his will August 4, 1733, which was not proved until

February 21, 1760.

+        62 M i.   Simon Volkert Veeder  was born in 1698. He died on Sep 05 1746.

+        63 F ii.   Ariantie Veeder  was christened on Aug 18 1700.

          64 M   iii.   Reyer Veeder  was christened on Dec 28 1701 in Albany. He died young.

          65 F iv.   Engeltje Veeder  was christened on Nov 07 1703 in Albany.

+        66 M v.   Reyer Veeder  was born in Oct 1705.

          67 F vi.   Catalyntje Veeder  was christened on Feb 08 1708 in Albany. She died young.

          68 F   vii.   Magdalena Veeder  was christened on Oct 30 1709 in Albany.

+        69 F   viii.   Susanna Veeder  was born in Apr 1712.

+        70 M   ix.   Johannes Veeder  was born on Apr 08 1714. He died on Jun 11 1798.

+        71 F x.   Catalyntje Veeder  was christened on Jan 01 1716.

          72 M   xi.   Hendricus Veeder  was christened on Oct 05 1717 in Albany. He died young.

          73 M   xii.   Hendricus Veeder  was christened on Aug 09 1719 in Albany. He died on Aug 23 1776.

Hendricus married Catharina Dellamont  daughter of Jan Dellamont on Feb 19 1747/1748. Catharina was born on May 06 1728. She died on Aug 18 1802.

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